Comments on: Feldenkrais Method, Rolfing, and Alexander Technique… http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/2007/03/rolfing-feldenkrais-and-alexander/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rolfing-feldenkrais-and-alexander The Work of Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais is Alive and Well: Everywhere Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:37 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mike Waefler http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/2007/03/rolfing-feldenkrais-and-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-8430 Mike Waefler Tue, 01 May 2007 06:57:09 +0000 http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/?p=57#comment-8430 I'm a certified Rolfer as well as being a Feldenkrais teacher. I'd love to find out how many other practitioners out there have full training in both methods, as far as I can tell there are about a dozen world wide, with maybe a similar number of folks being trained in one approach and maybe a fair amount of exposure to the other but not full training. I also spent a number of years studying with Dub Leigh, who I believe was one of 2 people to be certified directly by both Ida and Moshe. The way Dub told the story, Dr. Rolf said good things in class about Moshe one day, and since she was not known for speaking so highly about many other disciplines at the time, some of those Rolfing students figured Moshe must be really spectacular and decided to track him down. Dub and some of the other people involved were fixtures at Esalen and that's how the original invitation for Moshe to teach there originated. Accurate or not I really like the circular nature of this version of the story- Moshe's book influences Ida, she repays the favor by putting events in motion that lead to Moshe becomeing more widely known. There exists a photo from Dr. Rolf's 80th birthday celebration of Moshe shaking her hand warmly while Werner Erhard stand between with a hand on each of their shoulders- 3 pillars of the '70s human potential movement in 1 frame. I have an audio file of Dr. Rolf lecturing in a class sometime around '70 or '71 where she talks about her interaction with Moshe, not sure if this is the same class that Dub talked about or not. Ahh, stories. I’m a certified Rolfer as well as being a Feldenkrais teacher. I’d love to find out how many other practitioners out there have full training in both methods, as far as I can tell there are about a dozen world wide, with maybe a similar number of folks being trained in one approach and maybe a fair amount of exposure to the other but not full training.
I also spent a number of years studying with Dub Leigh, who I believe was one of 2 people to be certified directly by both Ida and Moshe. The way Dub told the story, Dr. Rolf said good things in class about Moshe one day, and since she was not known for speaking so highly about many other disciplines at the time, some of those Rolfing students figured Moshe must be really spectacular and decided to track him down. Dub and some of the other people involved were fixtures at Esalen and that’s how the original invitation for Moshe to teach there originated. Accurate or not I really like the circular nature of this version of the story- Moshe’s book influences Ida, she repays the favor by putting events in motion that lead to Moshe becomeing more widely known. There exists a photo from Dr. Rolf’s 80th birthday celebration of Moshe shaking her hand warmly while Werner Erhard stand between with a hand on each of their shoulders- 3 pillars of the ’70s human potential movement in 1 frame.
I have an audio file of Dr. Rolf lecturing in a class sometime around ’70 or ’71 where she talks about her interaction with Moshe, not sure if this is the same class that Dub talked about or not. Ahh, stories.

]]> By: Mr. Anonymous http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/2007/03/rolfing-feldenkrais-and-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-5161 Mr. Anonymous Sat, 07 Apr 2007 22:33:33 +0000 http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/?p=57#comment-5161 Here's an interesting quote: I studied a lot with Moshe. Moshe and Ida were old friends, they worked together in London. Ida said that she learned from him that one could tell where a person was and what they were by their body, their personality in their body. She told a story about she and Moshe being together talking about a physchiatrist from New York whom they both knew and Ida said "I think he's schizophrenic". And Moshe says "How could he be otherwise, haven't you looked at his body?" The other thing we used of Moshe's, a subtle thing learned, and that was the muscles generating positive thoughts and attitudes are the extensor muscles of the body and the negative thoughts and attitudes are in the flexor muscles of the body. So if you want a person to feel better and have better attitudes you want to work on the extensor muscles of the body. Moshe did that. Moshe didn't lay it out that way, like Ida did, get your hands in there and work, but Moshe would use awareness lessons. There are a lot of other things they had in common but Ida had a structured recipe."" It's from: http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Interviews/leigh12.htm Here’s an interesting quote:

I studied a
lot with Moshe. Moshe and Ida were old friends, they worked together
in London. Ida said that she learned from him that one could tell
where a person was and what they were by their body, their
personality in their body. She told a story about she and Moshe being
together talking about a physchiatrist from New York whom they both
knew and Ida said “I think he’s schizophrenic”. And Moshe says “How
could he be otherwise, haven’t you looked at his body?”
The other thing we used of Moshe’s, a subtle thing learned, and
that was the muscles generating positive thoughts and attitudes are
the extensor muscles of the body and the negative thoughts and
attitudes are in the flexor muscles of the body. So if you want a
person to feel better and have better attitudes you want to work on
the extensor muscles of the body. Moshe did that. Moshe didn’t lay it
out that way, like Ida did, get your hands in there and work, but
Moshe would use awareness lessons. There are a lot of other things
they had in common but Ida had a structured recipe.”"

It’s from:

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Interviews/leigh12.htm

]]> By: Mr. Anonymous http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/2007/03/rolfing-feldenkrais-and-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-5160 Mr. Anonymous Sat, 07 Apr 2007 22:25:57 +0000 http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/?p=57#comment-5160 Hi Ryan — the one story I remember is that Moshe — and possibly you can see it in the Amherst transcripts — but he said. “Ida Rolf and I were friends. She cried on my shoulder ..... “ Hi Ryan — the one story I remember is that Moshe — and possibly you can see it in the Amherst transcripts — but he said. “Ida Rolf and I were friends. She cried on my shoulder ….. “

]]> By: Nurit http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/2007/03/rolfing-feldenkrais-and-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-4108 Nurit Sun, 01 Apr 2007 06:07:05 +0000 http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/?p=57#comment-4108 In his lecture he says he met her in England and attended a lecture she gave. During her lecture she explained and demonstrated what changes she can make in one lesson. He says he was surprised when she called him up to the stage and referred to him as “her teacher” since he didn’t know her. She explained that she was a biochemist and that her granddaughter was born with problems and there were movement problems. They searched for solutions but the child continued to grow with movement problems. Than she had the chance to read "body and mature behavior" and she came up with similar ideas to those he was discussing in his lecture. The book gave her ideas to develop a method. He gives her a lot of compliments and talks about how from that book two methods could develop and than he goes on to explain her ideas about the fascia. He also says they became friends. In his lecture he says he met her in England and attended a lecture she gave.
During her lecture she explained and demonstrated what changes she can make in one lesson. He says he was surprised when she called him up to the stage and referred to him as “her teacher” since he didn’t know her. She explained that she was a biochemist and that her granddaughter was born with problems and there were movement problems. They searched for solutions but the child continued to grow with movement problems. Than she had the chance to read “body and mature behavior” and she came up with similar ideas to those he was discussing in his lecture. The book gave her ideas to develop a method. He gives her a lot of compliments and talks about how from that book two methods could develop and than he goes on to explain her ideas about the fascia. He also says they became friends.

]]> By: Ryan Nagy http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/2007/03/rolfing-feldenkrais-and-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-4097 Ryan Nagy Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:26:57 +0000 http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/?p=57#comment-4097 I would love to hear more! Thanks - Ryan I would love to hear more! Thanks – Ryan

]]> By: Nurit http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/2007/03/rolfing-feldenkrais-and-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-3978 Nurit Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:23:53 +0000 http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/?p=57#comment-3978 Hi Ryan, My name is Nurit. I'm a feldenkrais teacher from Israel. I was just reading yesturday from one of the Yanai books a lecture called "the means" (in Hebrew "haemtsaim"). He talkes in this lecture about a meeting he had with her. It's a little late right now for me, but if you are interested I will summerize it for you tomorrow. Nurit Hi Ryan,
My name is Nurit. I’m a feldenkrais teacher from Israel.
I was just reading yesturday from one of the Yanai books a lecture called “the means” (in Hebrew “haemtsaim”).
He talkes in this lecture about a meeting he had with her.
It’s a little late right now for me, but if you are interested I will summerize it for you tomorrow.
Nurit

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