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	<title>Comments on: Feldenkrais Research? Show Me The Data.</title>
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		<title>By: nagster</title>
		<link>http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/2009/10/feldenkrais-research-show-me-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-22184</link>
		<dc:creator>nagster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter - I Love it. Thanks.

I quit giving FI for about 16 months (so far) because I realized that it was getting in the way of spending more quality time with myself and exploring ATM in my own way. I&#039;ve been doing the Alexander Yanai sessions, and Esalen and exploring when it&#039;s useful for me to do them (morning, evening, night, etc) and how often (daily, several times per day etc.). Not only has it been wonderful but my knowledge of myself and the work has improved much more than it ever has. And more than it would have, had I been trying to give better FI or better workshops and such.

I think that speaks to your points....

Though I must say, that when I start practicing again, I will likely be goal oriented in terms of teaching a minimum number of classes and giving a certain number of FI&#039;s and such.

Good to hear from you again - Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter &#8211; I Love it. Thanks.</p>
<p>I quit giving FI for about 16 months (so far) because I realized that it was getting in the way of spending more quality time with myself and exploring ATM in my own way. I&#8217;ve been doing the Alexander Yanai sessions, and Esalen and exploring when it&#8217;s useful for me to do them (morning, evening, night, etc) and how often (daily, several times per day etc.). Not only has it been wonderful but my knowledge of myself and the work has improved much more than it ever has. And more than it would have, had I been trying to give better FI or better workshops and such.</p>
<p>I think that speaks to your points&#8230;.</p>
<p>Though I must say, that when I start practicing again, I will likely be goal oriented in terms of teaching a minimum number of classes and giving a certain number of FI&#8217;s and such.</p>
<p>Good to hear from you again &#8211; Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Petr Andreev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petr Andreev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, thanks for organizing this blog and for automatic notifications in particular!

I believe, there are two principles of the Feldenkrais work that could be applied in this situation:

1) your intention makes a lot of difference
2) you should be rather process oriented than result oriented

1) making a research thinking of building your practice today is like rolling the pelvis in FI thinking of fixing the lower back. Actually the lower back might get better but the intention is wrong, and this intention might even make the movement counterproductive.

2) Thinking of building your practice is obviously result-oriented. Investigation for the sake of a better understanding is process-oriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, thanks for organizing this blog and for automatic notifications in particular!</p>
<p>I believe, there are two principles of the Feldenkrais work that could be applied in this situation:</p>
<p>1) your intention makes a lot of difference<br />
2) you should be rather process oriented than result oriented</p>
<p>1) making a research thinking of building your practice today is like rolling the pelvis in FI thinking of fixing the lower back. Actually the lower back might get better but the intention is wrong, and this intention might even make the movement counterproductive.</p>
<p>2) Thinking of building your practice is obviously result-oriented. Investigation for the sake of a better understanding is process-oriented.</p>
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		<title>By: nagster</title>
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		<dc:creator>nagster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aqua - Thanks for the comment. I have a Masters in Developmental Psychology and use to work at the U of Utah in a research capacity. I agree that research can be very useful and valuable. My push for the Feldenkrais community is to put their efforts where it can do the most good. For me, in the short term, I see that as finding ways to serve more clients and to get the work deeper into the culture and more widely available.

I think research can be a valuable part of that, but the community doesn&#039;t have unlimited resources, so people need to prioritize. I don&#039;t in any way disagree with your sentiments. But I want Feldenkrais practitioners to contribute their ideas and money to projects that will build their practices today, and not (theoretically) 20 years from now.

Again, thanks for joining the conversation! Multiple perspectives are crucial.

- Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aqua &#8211; Thanks for the comment. I have a Masters in Developmental Psychology and use to work at the U of Utah in a research capacity. I agree that research can be very useful and valuable. My push for the Feldenkrais community is to put their efforts where it can do the most good. For me, in the short term, I see that as finding ways to serve more clients and to get the work deeper into the culture and more widely available.</p>
<p>I think research can be a valuable part of that, but the community doesn&#8217;t have unlimited resources, so people need to prioritize. I don&#8217;t in any way disagree with your sentiments. But I want Feldenkrais practitioners to contribute their ideas and money to projects that will build their practices today, and not (theoretically) 20 years from now.</p>
<p>Again, thanks for joining the conversation! Multiple perspectives are crucial.</p>
<p>- Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: aqua</title>
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		<dc:creator>aqua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Petr, and as a consumer so to speak I would also feel a lot more confidence in Feldenkrais if there was more comprehensive research preferably
using current technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Petr, and as a consumer so to speak I would also feel a lot more confidence in Feldenkrais if there was more comprehensive research preferably<br />
using current technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Nagy</title>
		<link>http://utahfeldenkrais.org/blog/2009/10/feldenkrais-research-show-me-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-21768</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Nagy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Petr - Thanks for your comment. You are talking about your personal belief about what research is. That&#039;s your perogative, but other people do have different beliefs as is their perogative. - Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Petr &#8211; Thanks for your comment. You are talking about your personal belief about what research is. That&#8217;s your perogative, but other people do have different beliefs as is their perogative. &#8211; Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Petr Andreev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petr Andreev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One does research in order TO UNDERSTAND BETTER, not for anything else. If you do it for something else, to return an investment for instance, it is not a research, be it labeled as such or not, be it conducted in universities or not. Having this in mind eliminates many questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One does research in order TO UNDERSTAND BETTER, not for anything else. If you do it for something else, to return an investment for instance, it is not a research, be it labeled as such or not, be it conducted in universities or not. Having this in mind eliminates many questions.</p>
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